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19 days

Unlocking LUKS with NitroKey/Yubikey: FIDO2, HMAC-SHA1, or OpenPGP?

Crossposted from https://thebrainbin.org/m/linux@lemmy.ml/t/1840283

Which approach do you think is better, and why?

  1. FIDO2
  2. HMAC-SHA1
  3. OpenPGP (alternative guide)

Or do you think there is an even better way to use a hardware security token to unlock drives having LUKS full disk encryption?

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    • irmadlad@lemmy.worldEnglish
      18 days

      I just manually type the password in. Not quit as elegant, but does the job.

      • libewa@feddit.orgEnglish
        18 days

        I personally use a TPM with Measured Boot (so it doesn‘t give the key to external disks), and have a YubiKey and password as fallback options.

        • mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.worldEnglish
          18 days

          i use a yubikey and still have the ability to type my LUKs password in. Yubikey is just more convenience: plug in and it auto type the password field. On Fedora this means it populates the field with asterisks. Still, i think using password is the best method.

          With that said, i believe a much better secure layer is something similar to what Novacustoms, Purism attempt to do: verify if somebody else not you try to access the laptop. So far i know of only Dasharo boot and the stuff from Purism that can do these…

          So the layout is: Boot verification -> LUKs-> your data

          Or if you have the juices and powers: Boot verification -> LUKS -> QuebeOS dom0 -> choose your Quebess.

            • modem_down@thebrainbin.org
              18 days

              i believe a much better secure layer is something similar to what Novacustoms, Purism attempt to do: verify if somebody else not you try to access the laptop.

              You’re thinking of Heads, which I agree is ideal for supported motherboards.

            • glizzyguzzler@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
              18 days

              Interested in what you divine, I’m switching from a USB drive with the key in it to one of those fancy things.

              • Matt@lemmy.mlEnglish
                17 days

                Neither. I just use my Yubikey as a backup in case I don’t have access to Bitwarden.

                • It_is_gaslighting@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
                  18 days

                  FIDO2 is great. Only thing I am scared of is losing it/them. So a backup access becomes the issue IMHO.

                    • esc@piefed.socialEnglish
                      18 days

                      You can have multiple ways to unlock luks container, what’s the issue?

                    • irmadlad@lemmy.worldEnglish
                      18 days

                      Is there a down vote bot loose on Lemmy? Weirdness.

                      • talkingpumpkin@lemmy.worldEnglish
                        18 days

                        Does this have anything to do with self hosting?

                          • modem_down@thebrainbin.org
                            18 days

                            Yes. Here are some common self-hosting scenarios:

                            • Home server containing family files: scans, photos, device backups, …
                            • Office server containing business files: sensitive documents, device backups, …
                            • Web or email server containing websites, Fediverse instances, emails, etc

                            In all those cases, full disk encryption (FDE) is a sensible precaution to protect the data in case the server is physically stolen.

                            Linux is probably the most common OS kernel for self-hosting. On Linux, LUKS (Linux Unified Key Setup) is probably the best FDE system. It’s mature and reliable. But anyone self-hosting a Linux server with LUKS FDE is faced with the question of where to store the keys.

                            Hardware security tokens (HSTs) are widely considered a safer place for keys than SSDs, HDDs, or USB storage. They follow the smartcard principle: a private key can be written to an HST but not read from it (security vulnerabilities excepted). Instead, they implement cryptographic algorithms to prove possession of the private key. So, anyone self-hosting a Linux server with LUKS FDE should strongly consider storing their private key(s) on an HST.

                            However, there is more than one way to do that. Hence the question in my OP.

                              • talkingpumpkin@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                18 days

                                If it’s a server for self hosting you definitely don’t want anything that requires interaction at boot.

                                There’s a project that allows unlocking LUKS with a decryption key retrieved from another machine in your network. I don’t recall the name but someone hopefully will.

                                The idea is that put the key on, say, a raspberry pi zero w that you hide somewhere in your house so that if someone steals your server they don’t have the key.

                                  • JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.netEnglish
                                    18 days

                                    Some people are fine with down time/inconvenience in exchange for security.

                                    I have my boot drive on a secured USB and LUKS keyfile with the rest of the partitions on an encrypted SSD and data on encrypted HDDs.

                                    In a smash and grab (or fascist government gestapo smash and grab), the server is pretty impossible to steal information from (inject illegal content to in order to fabricate evidence) without the USB and they can’t simply inject boot malware either. A network device is almost always findable either by cables or WiFi broadcast analyzing.

                                    • modem_down@thebrainbin.org
                                      18 days

                                      If it’s a server for self hosting you definitely don’t want anything that requires interaction at boot.

                                      Depends on use-case. If you only plan to boot it when you’re physically present, it’s fine.

                                      • esc@piefed.socialEnglish
                                        18 days

                                        tang

                                          • modem_down@thebrainbin.org
                                            18 days

                                            tang

                                            Thanks. TIL about Clevis/Tang.

                                          • percent@infosec.pubEnglish
                                            17 days

                                            My servers require manual unlock via SSH at boot. It has been great for years.

                                            • superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                                              18 days

                                              I haven’t actually tried it yet, but on that note, if you have an OpenWRT router you can configure dropbear to unlock it.

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